there was an environmental group, does not disclose its donors spent $2 million beating up senator brown on environmental issues. so this type of thing, this type of issue advocacy has been going around for a long period of time. people haven't complained about it until the conservatives started doing it. that was when -- that was when everybody came up in arms. what's most ironic about this is that 10 years ago, before the mccain-feingold legislation, the piece of reform legislation, that's what created this current system. so now you have all the people that are responsible for the current regime complaining about the regime that they actually created through campaign finance reform 10 years ago. it's truly bizarre but it's very, very -- >> arthel: can you rebutt in 20 seconds? >> what i think is truly bizarre and truly ironic is a lot of the funders to crossroads are actually bankers in wall street so kind of the idea that you're putting out ads that are trying to connect obama to wall street doesn't make any sense. >> arthel: got to go, you guys. we'll see you next time. >> thanks. >